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> What's the BEST Religion to be?, If you could choose... and why
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post Jun 16 2008, 07:12 PM
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I used to say, I'd be buddhist as a preference as it seems the most peaceful / avoid conflict / don't go to hell forever and have a chance, repeated chances to redeem yourself etc. Never been a fan of the screw up this life and you go to hell forever angle of the Bible.

I always say theres nothing so bad you could possibly do to go to Hell -forever-.


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post Jun 17 2008, 01:54 AM
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Yes since i am a Christian i agree with you, and i find that the religion where Nirvana is mentioned sound interesting cause to me it makes sense, i think that it is in Hinduizam. They are basically saying that we have to lose all of our wishes, all of our wantings, we should be content with what we have now and then we will be gods.
And i think that this is true, bigger part of our sufferings is from wanting, and wishing something we can not ever have.


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post Jun 17 2008, 02:05 AM
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I always thought Nirvana was a rockband
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post Jun 17 2008, 07:43 AM
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

well it is, but it is this as well
i think that they took the name from this religion and called their band after it.


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post Jun 17 2008, 09:29 AM
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I hold to Christianity for many reasons.
One of the interesting things about it is that you don't have to do good things to get to heaven (like Hinduism or Islam).
In order to go to heaven, you simply have to admit to God that you have sinned. You have to tell Him that you want the salvation that He offers through His Son.
From that point on, you will find that you want to do what's right and live for God, but it's not doing good things that saves you.
That's why I am a Christian.


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post Jun 17 2008, 08:35 PM
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I find that strange, javayahtzee. You could be a killer all your life, then ask for salvation and be saved, while that guy who's done nothing but good yet isn't Christian ... well, poor him. Anyway, that's not the point of this thread.

I would say the best religion is ... your own religion. (: I doubt I've met anybody that doesn't think their religion, whatever it may be, is the best. Other than that, I don't know what to say. My personal beliefs seem to shift with the times, so ... smile.gif I guess that's the best religion (for me). Disregard what other people say, and make the decision for yourself.


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post Jun 18 2008, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(Firefox @ Jun 16 2008, 08:12 PM) *
I used to say, I'd be buddhist as a preference as it seems the most peaceful / avoid conflict / don't go to hell forever and have a chance, repeated chances to redeem yourself etc. Never been a fan of the screw up this life and you go to hell forever angle of the Bible.

I always say theres nothing so bad you could possibly do to go to Hell -forever-.


Well, yeah, you screw up you go to hell. That's the way it works. I've said this already, and quoted it a number of times, but here you go again, the simplest way to be magically okay in Christianity. All it takes is one time, and you're set for life.

QUOTE(Death Dark @ May 1 2008, 12:04 AM) *
What decision? The decision to write the 10? Yeah, it's old, but they're still the rules. However, there is no one who has not broken the rules, "10As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one," and, "23For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:10 & 23) If you break the rules, then you're to suffer, "23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23) So, yeah, we all have broken the rules. Simple as that. We all deserve death. However, we don't have to suffer because of the mistakes we have made. "9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." (Romans 10:9) It's not a very hard thing, and despite common misinterpretations, that's all that you need to do in order to be a Christian. The other stuff is technically optional, but as long as you truly believe, then you shall surely be saved.


QUOTE(zuly @ Jun 17 2008, 02:54 AM) *
Yes since i am a Christian i agree with you, and i find that the religion where Nirvana is mentioned sound interesting cause to me it makes sense, i think that it is in Hinduizam. They are basically saying that we have to lose all of our wishes, all of our wantings, we should be content with what we have now and then we will be gods.
And i think that this is true, bigger part of our sufferings is from wanting, and wishing something we can not ever have.


Nirvana is part of Buddhism. Hinduism is about reincarnation based off of the Karma that you earned in your prior life.

And both of those require specifically that you do good or suffer.

QUOTE(Paw @ Jun 17 2008, 09:35 PM) *
I find that strange, javayahtzee. You could be a killer all your life, then ask for salvation and be saved, while that guy who's done nothing but good yet isn't Christian ... well, poor him. Anyway, that's not the point of this thread.


Yes that is the point of this thread, to determine which is the best.

If the guy has done nothing but good, then he'll go to heaven. However, if the guy has done so much as one thing wrong, he shall not. It's not like it's a hard thing to do to be saved, though. It's quite simple, and stays with you forever, if you truly did get saved (just going through the motions means nothing if you do not truly believe).

QUOTE(Paw @ Jun 17 2008, 09:35 PM) *
I would say the best religion is ... your own religion. (: I doubt I've met anybody that doesn't think their religion, whatever it may be, is the best. Other than that, I don't know what to say. My personal beliefs seem to shift with the times, so ... smile.gif I guess that's the best religion (for me). Disregard what other people say, and make the decision for yourself.


Or you could listen to them. They may have some important things to say.

I, of course, am going to vouch for Christianity, because the easiest one to follow would be the best in my opinion.


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post Jun 18 2008, 01:24 PM
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First of all, i apologize for mistaking the religions.
And this is Nirvana

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Nibbāna is a word used by the Buddha to describe the perfect peace of the mind that is free from craving, anger and other afflictive states (kilesa). This peace, which is in reality the fundamental nature of the mind, is revealed when the root causes of the afflictive states are dissolved. The causes themselves lie deep within the mind (that part of the mind that Western psychology calls the subconscious) but their undoing is gradually achieved by living a disciplined life. In Nibbana the root causes of craving and aversion have been extinguished such that one is no longer subject to human suffering (dukkha) or further states of rebirths in samsara.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana

Like you can see, you don't have to do good, you just have live disciplined life and control yourself. Basically it is all in the mind, you can be a murderer and if you can process it in your head without feeling guilty and continue living carefree you can have Nirvana. And i am not talking about afterlife and how we will be judged there i am talking about this life we have now, and how this is a good idea in this religion that can ease our passage through. What happens after who knows.


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post Jun 19 2008, 12:04 AM
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Yes that is the point of this thread, to determine which is the best.

I suppose it is. Wow, I was tired.


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post Jun 20 2008, 06:13 PM
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Well I would definetely have to say Christianity as I am a Christian! I think it's absolutely amazing that the most powerful being in all the universe and throughout time, who created everything, loves each and every one of us and cares so darn much about us all (little billions of us that there are) is truely awesome!

What's more, He loved us so much that he let his only son Jesus die just so we could be forgiven for all our sins!! John chapter 3 verse 16 sums it up nicely:

For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, so that anyone who believes in Him may not die, but have eternal life!!

Pretty darn awesome and in my opinion no other religion can beat that!!! Not to mention no other religion allows such personal connections to God (which is granted to us through Jesus).

QUOTE(Paw @ Jun 18 2008, 02:35 AM) *
I find that strange, javayahtzee. You could be a killer all your life, then ask for salvation and be saved, while that guy who's done nothing but good yet isn't Christian ... well, poor him. Anyway, that's not the point of this thread.


I think that point needs a little explantion! Ok, if the killer truly repented and seeked forgiveness and truly believed, then yes, he would be forgiven and go to heaven. As for the person who has done nothing but good - does such a person exist?? I think not, everyone has done something wrong in their life, told a little white lie, thought a bad thought etc etc. As sin is sin, no matter the severity, everyone is technically a sinner. So we all need forgiveness which is why only those who ask and truly repent (and therefore are forgiven) will be able to go to heaven!

But to be honest, I couldn't imagine my life without knowing God. He's helped me through so much that the whole eternal life thing is just an absolutely awesome bonus!


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post Jul 3 2008, 01:19 AM
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Why should I choose? Why should I be forced to believe in a mystical creator? This thread will not work, everyone will say the relegion they are now. So Atheism, and if I am forced at gunpoint, i'll take up Buddhism.
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post Jul 3 2008, 07:05 PM
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Again, so very strong in your faith, there.

And, again, there's the whole "debating" thing we're trying to do here.


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post Jul 4 2008, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(Theawesomeone @ Jul 3 2008, 08:19 AM) *
Why should I choose? Why should I be forced to believe in a mystical creator? This thread will not work, everyone will say the relegion they are now. So Atheism, and if I am forced at gunpoint, i'll take up Buddhism.


I chose a different religion then my own, i'm not saying that mine is the wrong one i just think that others have some good points.


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