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Mar 30 2008, 11:27 PM
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![]() Professional ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 952 Joined: 1-June 07 From: Florence, SC Member No.: 882 |
Well, I was going to make this topic about Same-Sex Marriage, but the opposition thereof seems to always point towards other things eventually. Until then, this topic is officially about the Same-Sex Marriage only.
AS A NOTE: Just because someone argues for, doesn't mean they're gay. It's perfectly okay to fight for a right you never plan to exercise. --------------------------------- Same-Sex marriage should be legal because God and Christian Values should not come into play with the Laws of a Free Nation. That doesn't mean we should Break God's laws, but merely to not force them down other people's throat by law. Once this factor is taken out of the picture, there is no legitimate argument against it. -------------------- |
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Apr 1 2008, 06:08 PM
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But you also want to force abortion to be illegal.... isn't this the same kinda thing, doesn't the Bible say same sex marriages are bad (or something like that)? You are saying abortion should be illegal but same sex marriages shouldn't. They are both against the Bible are they not?
Also another note: I actually found from a psychologist, she says gay people seem to have had some trauma in there early life (the majority she's seen), and she things its a mental disturbance. Personally, I don't know, but yeah I certainly do keep that peice of info in mind. They can get married I say - whether they are genetically gay though and not getting married because they are plain lost (or think its cool), is another question. -------------------- The Free cPanel Host and GrandForums Main Administrator. Sign-up FREE Now!
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Apr 1 2008, 10:38 PM
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![]() Professional ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 952 Joined: 1-June 07 From: Florence, SC Member No.: 882 |
It is of my belief that it's a choice to be gay, which is actually what most of the opposition says.
And to clarify: I do not speak against Abortion on the grounds of the Bible, but on my own morals and standards. Now, if you would focus on the topic... The bible says, "A man shall not lie with a man as he lies with a woman, for it is an abomination." This is not taken out of context. This is somewhere in Leviticus, and it is merely a point in the list. This is all it says. An interesting thing to note here: it only says no man-to-man...(if I were to use smileys, -------------------- |
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Apr 2 2008, 12:20 AM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 810 Joined: 8-October 06 Member No.: 48 |
The bible says, "A man shall not lie with a man as he lies with a woman, for it is an abomination." "For it is an abomination". Funny. -------------------- The Free cPanel Host and GrandForums Main Administrator. Sign-up FREE Now!
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Apr 2 2008, 02:08 PM
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![]() Professional ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 952 Joined: 1-June 07 From: Florence, SC Member No.: 882 |
It's only in the KJV, however.
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Apr 7 2008, 02:06 PM
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Well, by not letting them marry, you're not stopping them from being Homosexual, nor stopping them from practicing sexual intercourse with one another, but if they do marry, then they wouldn't go from person to person having sex, and promoting the spread of STD's. Everything i said here was the really long, boring intellectual version of this joke i commonly hear "I think gay marriage should be legal." "Why?!" " well would you want fags going and spreading AID's to everyone?" (i don't like the word fag, it's too cliche)
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Apr 7 2008, 05:15 PM
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![]() Professional ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 952 Joined: 1-June 07 From: Florence, SC Member No.: 882 |
Good point, but watch the slurs.
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Apr 10 2008, 05:17 PM
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A key point of the US government was to seperate church and state. If you take God out of the picture, I don't see any reason for why we should ban same sex marriages.
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Apr 11 2008, 05:19 AM
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![]() Money Grows on Trees Group: Members Posts: 771 Joined: 27-December 06 From: Australia Member No.: 356 |
Same-sex marriages are despised upon because it is believed if they are legalized there would be a decline in human population which in my humble opinion can never be the case but would slow down population increase which would be something to consider.
I'd say let them have it, a few friend's friends that i know are gay and i don't see the problem with that its their choice and everyone is entitled to their own lifestyle. -------------------- |
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Apr 12 2008, 01:08 PM
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![]() Professional ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 952 Joined: 1-June 07 From: Florence, SC Member No.: 882 |
A key point of the US government was to seperate church and state. If you take God out of the picture, I don't see any reason for why we should ban same sex marriages. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." Find the term "Separation of Church and State" in there. Same-sex marriages are despised upon because it is believed if they are legalized there would be a decline in human population which in my humble opinion can never be the case but would slow down population increase which would be something to consider. This is absurd. I'm sorry, but it is. Just because same-sex marriage is made legal doesn't mean all of a sudden a bunch of straight people are going to suddenly become gay. Likewise, if it is not legal, that doesn't mean that gay people are going to go out and marry someone of the opposite sex and/or have kids by them. The population growth will STAY THE SAME. -------------------- |
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Apr 12 2008, 03:12 PM
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Starter Member Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 10-April 08 Member No.: 1553 |
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." Find the term "Separation of Church and State" in there. ... if you cannot make laws favoring one religion, then you are not allowing religion to be law. |
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Apr 12 2008, 10:56 PM
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![]() Professional ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 952 Joined: 1-June 07 From: Florence, SC Member No.: 882 |
Separation of Church and State does not exist, merely the Establishment and Free Exercise clauses.
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Apr 13 2008, 01:50 AM
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Starter Member Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 13-April 08 From: WA Member No.: 1558 |
The way I see it, is if you are against Gay Marriage, don't marry a Gay. Plain and simple. Deciding what is and isn't legal is, however, up to the State and Federal Government. I don't see our country (USA) ever coming to a unanimous decision, on whether Gay Marriage is right or wrong. The bible may say that Gay Marriage is wrong...but who's to say the Bible governs all citizens of this country? I don't see the point in bringing Religion into this discussion. Sure, it is a valid point, that the majority of the opposition is religious, but does that mean the majority is right? No. I believe that being gay is not a choice. And that's just from what I've experienced with friends, family, and co-workers. No one who is openly gay, will say that being gay is a choice. However, someone who hides their sexuality, covers it up, or does not express it, will tell you otherwise. Especially if they are Religious. I just don't see the point in arguing who's right and who's wrong on this subject, when Religion is brought up. Name ONE religion on the planet, that will admit being wrong on ANY subject, and I'll change my opinions. Game. Set. Match.
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Apr 13 2008, 06:47 AM
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Starter Member Group: Members Posts: 170 Joined: 9-April 08 Member No.: 1550 |
I agree, you can't have one book (that others may not believe in) running the country.
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Apr 13 2008, 04:12 PM
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![]() Professional ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 952 Joined: 1-June 07 From: Florence, SC Member No.: 882 |
Name ONE religion on the planet, that will admit being wrong on ANY subject, and I'll change my opinions. Game. Set. Match. This is not only off topic, but it's bashing on other people's ideas and views. Even beyond that, the rest of your post makes you seem overcome by emotion. Emotion is never the way to go in an argument. Sure, it shows your passion, but it also clouds your vision. -------------------- |
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